PH Release Date

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PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:20 am

I am working on a new tool with the help of several pol members and a few good friends from the long disbanded site Orbsydia in creating a replacement for DOH (Dundee's Other Hand). I am sure you can all agree that DOH is a great tool but with the new POL work in progress, it is time for a new tool. I do not want to use the DOH name as it is not mine.

The new GM tool will be called PH (Pendrive Happy). It will contain everything that DOH had plus more whilist storing info in a easier to use XML format.

The reason behind the name has to do with the fact that UO can also be ran of a pendrive. This poses a problem for tools like DOH, since there is no ath in the registry to UO - and this is not the default storage place for UO - DOH and other tools can not function properly if at all.

I will be posting some screenshots tonight with a WIP features list. There is no set date though I would like to have a release out this weekend.

If you have any features you would like to see, please post them here. Thank you.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by OldnGrey » Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:29 am

You are attempting a bold project.
I have seen a fair few command line replacer utilities, but what POL really needs is a decent world decorator.
DoH and OHoD (Dundee's) was good at letting you click to do major things, but both lacked any more than a rudimentary way of decorating worlds.

By decorating I am referring to things like the old XURI WorldBuilder for UOX3 or Pandora'sBox. Things that let you decorate and perform tedious operations with a click or two. For example:
* everything in the items list
* multi-part trees (swamp and yew)
* multi-part rocks
* other multi-part things like coffins, beds, mills, stairs, carpet rugs, pillories, executioners platform, large wine presses, lighthouses, fountains, virtue squares, roofs (given a rectangle),
* decorating edges of waterfalls, water and lava boundaries
* ways of lining cave walls easily
* ways of adding house templates and placing them and moving them around
* stone and brick paths and their edges
* docks (at correct height) and their posts and waves

It's a huge project, but aren't we dying for such a tool?

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by phao » Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:33 am

Yeah! A tool like oldngray said would be GREAT.

It'd allow you to just care about the design.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:28 am

I am not so far in over my head that I can not reverse the goal and turn it into that, I can even create a roofing tool. :P I will need austin's help though with some things. We need to put a couple commands I created into the distro.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Nightson » Fri Aug 29, 2008 12:36 pm

Great idea i would like to see imba multi.mul editor with import/export options ;] good luck

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Yukiko » Fri Aug 29, 2008 4:28 pm

Runtest, just out of curiosity in what language are you writing the tool?

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:50 pm

No criticism ok. I am using C# just because I love the .net. Now I KNOW its not Linux friendly, I am more than willing to make a Linux wrapper.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Yukiko » Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:55 am

No criticism intended. I was just curious.
*snickers*
Just kidding. I really was just curious.
: )

Really it makes little difference as long as the final compiled proggie does what it's supposed to do.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by AxelDominatoR » Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:25 pm

Mono is capable of running most .net apps under linux.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:27 pm

Hey, its all good but due to the new direction of the tool, its going to take a bit longer than predicted. I am completely re-writing the tool. It is so complicated right now it even has its own command window. In other words, it has all the functionality of DOH in one window, and access to.

Multi Placing
Item Placing (Statics)
Roofing (Single and Sets)
Flooring - Carpets

More coming soon. I will try to have a beta out soon as possible.

P.P.S == If anyone else has any other DLLs that would help besides Ultima.DLL, then PLEASE attach them here. Ultima.DLL is pretty well useless without some rewriting anyhow. It would get this done allot quicker.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Tue Sep 02, 2008 8:35 pm

Alright to answer a couple of questions.

1. Thank you for the UO reference files, you know who you are, I did not want to post your name without asking.
2. I am ok with exporting MUL files but patching them in might be a trick. I will see what I can do.
3. Sorry about the extended release date, due to request and my vision for your needs. I scrapped the entire project of my DOH revival and instead blew DOH out of the water with a building tool. I had to completely rewrite the Ultima.DLL from the Runuo source I grabbed it from. This is a complicated project and I will have an image for you guys this weekend.

P.S. A couple RL friends, (ROFL We are all in RL) anyhow, a couple RL friends read these forums that I was unaware of and not they are harassing me to get it finished. This is not going to be a lost WIP.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:58 pm

Still Alive!

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Nightson » Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:07 am

still waiting ;]

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:13 am

This weekend looks good if I get the help I need from some friends.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Nightson » Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:07 pm

sounds nice good luck

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Fri Sep 12, 2008 6:55 pm

Screenshot Time,

This one is a bit outdated. Its just a rough idea of the layout.

http://www.uploading.com/files/75E1P6TV ... l.bmp.html

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:51 pm

Alright running into a problem if anyone has any suggestions. I can export a mul no prob, but how on earth do I import a single image into the art files and index it properly?

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Nightson » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:35 am

i dont know but i sugest to try ask on runuo forum

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Turley » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:38 am

Or you look at the source from varans mulpatcher

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Luth » Sat Sep 20, 2008 10:09 am

For what little help this may be, I believe that all current MUL patchers append the data to the MUL file, and merely change the address for the edited object in the MUL header, rather than replacing the data inline, and adjusting all subsequent addresses. (Its quick and easy, but it means if you replace the same gump 4 times, all 4 of your revisions will be stored in the MUL, even though they cannot be addressed.)

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Sat Sep 20, 2008 11:14 pm

I think you are right and I think that is causing a problem. The hold up is this.
I am creating a painting program that will allow you to, extract a gump, paint on it, then import it back in, this all happens in real time. I am finding this to be a side project of its own almost.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:26 am

If anyone would like to help. My time is:

-05:00 GMT
MSN: R u n t e s t . D r u i d at H o t m a i l dot c o m

I get off work at 6 pm my time. I really need someone with strong C# skills. I am getting lost here and would love ANY help.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by runtest » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:48 am

Just wanted to say when I get the site up I will be posting this tool. I have made leaps and bounds on it. Sorry for the delay. RL Money troubles and such.

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by Pachacuti » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:08 pm

Whoa, so it still alive? :D

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Re: PH Release Date

Post by tImE » Wed Jul 14, 2010 8:05 am

If this is same runtest Im reading about at other sites, he say alot, but never deliver.
Sorry not meant as flame, he can always prove it wrong by actually delivering? but I just got done reading about 10 different posts on the net by him with same result.. no result.

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