Pirates & Ninjas

[Austin]

Discussion was split from http://forums.polserver.com/viewtopic.php?t=937

Best version of UO ever... Pirates vs. Ninjas

FTW!

Also..Rowan blows underaged goats.

[Yukiko]

I'll put my money on the Pirates.

[Marilla]

Everyone's a Ninja-hater!

I'll jump on the bandwagon...



...as long as Austin's sharing the beer!

[Austin]

You generalize far too much.. "Everyone" isn't a ninja hater..
The ninja lovers aren't ninja haters, for example.

Resouces for PvN arguments.

http://www.piratesvsninjas.net/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_versus_Ninjas
http://www.piratesversusninjas.com/
etc.

[tekproxy]

(Note: The plural of ninja is ninja.)

To truely understand the concept of pirates vs ninja it's important to know what real ninja and real pirates were like.

Due to the nature of their work, many ninja clans were highly secretive and jealously guarded their training methods. It's difficult for the modern western mind to understand just how skilled a ninja could be without doing a hefty amount of homework. However, the general premise of ninja and some of their training methods are known. Essentially a ninja is a trained assassin. The definition of ninja is thus:

[Marilla]

[Austin]

I think what needs to be established... is the terms of the showdown of the Ninjai and Pirati.

A battle of wits, strength, job perks, job benefits, job fun and overall fashion.

Wits
Pirates - don't need to be smart, even a zulu hotel shard admin could be a pirate.
Ninjas - Well.. they are from Japan. Test scores from schools say enough.
That simpsons episode.. guys with a PHD in computer science worked in Mc Donalds.

Strength
Pirates - They are stronger in number. Seen the movie Ants? Those grass hoppers had no chance once they figured it out.
Ninjas - Sure lifting weights.. one on one they would be better but its PIRATES vs. NINJA (as Tekproxy put it) so the dude in black is way out numbered. No wonder their master calls the apprentice "young grasshopper"...

Job Perks & Benefits
Pirates - Rum, women, big boats, shiny stuff, don't need school. Get a ride at Disney Land made after you, and a movie all about you.
Ninja - Anyone seen... Ninjas of the... whatever they do movie? They don't even get an amusement park ride. Clearly they suck.

Overall Fashion
Pirates - They just win because they are capable of fashion.
Ninjas - Black... Isnt that what Emo kids also wear? I guess Ninjas are really kids who felt their parents didn't understand them.

[Austin]

So a few years ago while working on TSSE, I also developed a paralell shard called "Pirates vs. Ninjas" I split the discussion and added a poll and in a few days ill have that shard up to date with 097.

[tekproxy]

This is really about Reality vs. Fantasy.

If you keep the discussion in the realm of reality than obviously the superior would be the ninja as I have explained previously. If one disagrees one has merely to examine the fact that pirates were and are regular criminals on boats--nothing more.

What is happening here and on the internet in general is the discussion is being drawn into more murky waters--that is, the realm of fantasy. Characteristics of both pirates and ninja have been severely distorted and exaggerated through time and with the media, which makes opinions of superiority highly subjective. Naturally with such subjectivity it is impossible to clearly determine which side would win under any circumstances and any discussions thereof become a testament to one's over-abundance of free time, desire to attempt to sound intelligent online, an interest in pseudo-intellectual and ultimately unending debates (spaces vs tabs, anyone?), etc. There's nothing wrong with any of this, of course. I'd hop in and have fun with everyone else, but if I were going to argue in a never-ending debate it would have to be more evenly matched.

Ninja do have an amusement ride:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&client=ninja_browser-a&rls=net.realultimatepower%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=ninja+ride&btnG=Search

[Datus]

I think the fact that the vote is split 50/50 means... well... errr nevermind...

Anyway, if you really want to know about ninjas then may I direct you to the ULTIMATE source of information on the topic - Yes. That's right. The Official Ninja Webpage.

http://www.realultimatepower.net/

I could be killed for sharing this information so... F*** it. I do it for truth!!

[tekproxy]

Do you have stairs in your house?

[Datus]

[Datus]

[MuadDib]

While ninjas may appear cool............

Pirates are a jack of all trades. Generally they have to be to get by. Cuz they suck otherwise. I vote for the Pirates just cuz I like Sid's way to portray them in a game. And I hate the old ninja gaiden game vs sid mier's game.

Polly want a cracker? Tough. Suck on an egg instead.

[Marilla]