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MontuZ
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Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Why use POL? Reply with quote

Let's all list the reasons why we use Penultima Online and not use other UO Server Emu's.

Mine are;
Easy to understand/learn POL's eScript
It's the first emu I tried and never wanted anything else

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nevalon



Joined: 07 Mar 2006
Posts: 39
Location: Poland

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unreal: the same reasons and one more: There are some people, they are known as Developers, such as MuadDib, who will help you with anythink you need in POL, including changing hard-code of emulator Smile

And, there is another, subiektive reason: I'm from POLand Razz

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Tritan



Joined: 04 Feb 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Illinois, USA

PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

POL to me is the most stable and customizable emulator out there. The support you get from the devlopers of the emulator and other scripts is normally top notch also, much better then I what I saw at some other emulators support sites anyway.

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Kadmos



Joined: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing I appreciate the most about POL is that the developers are stable and don't rant and rave like crazy madmen, something which seems to be common with a number of other emu's.

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Yukiko



Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 1094
Location: Southern Central USA

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I have looked at that other emu with "UO" in it's name and quite frankly my reason for loving POL is it's easy to learn. The eScript language that is. I am an experienced programmer. Well, somewhat experienced. And all that "wrapping" that the afore mentioned other emulator requires for each script would be very confusing for a new person to programming/scripting. Now I realize anyone used to programming in C or C sharp will find that nothing unusual but if you want to attract people to your emu, KISS (Keep It Simple Sir) and POL is simple but not at the expense of versatility. To be honest, POL is a marvel because it is easy to learn and very versatile. My only dificulty is the somewhat cryptic "for" loops but again I'd still take POL over that other emu.

I also agree with all the above comments about the devs and the POL family we have here. For the most part we get along very well and the devs are always ready to help and answer questions.

Anyway, that's my two shillings worth.

TTFN

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nevalon



Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Location: Poland

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But, on the other hand, I can find one thing not good for me in POL emulator: It isn't open source Sad Why? Why don't give other programmers (or rather scripters) the sources of POL?

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XtehseA



Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been taught that KISS stands for keep it simple, stupid. Anyways i have tried many emulators and POL is the best by far, easy to learn escript, very flexible and also a great dev team here at www.polserver.com even though they have lifes they do the best job that they can do.

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Danielle



Joined: 07 Feb 2006
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Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One word: Customization.

POL is by far the most customizable emulator out of the box.

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Yukiko



Joined: 02 Feb 2006
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Location: Southern Central USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll answer the open source question.

It's quite simple.

Let's say POL is open source and let's assume four people named Fred, Bob, John and Art each make their own changes to the emulator and release their respective versions to the "world". Now imagine people posting questions here for help on each of these emulator versions. How would anyone be able to provide a central location for help on POL when you'd essentially have five versions (given my example above, the original and the four new ones) out there? Now imagine several dozen Freds, Arts, Johns and Bobs rewriting POL and releasing their respective versions. It would be madness to try to support all those modified POLs. If you want open source, write your own and release it or go with an open source emu. The POL developers have stated that they do not want an open source emulator and I support that essentially for the reason I stated above. Besides, why should the POL developers give away their hard work?

As to the KISS, yes the last 'S' usually represents the word 'stupid' but since I prefer civillity in most all my posts I used 'Sir'.

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XtehseA



Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 6:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pol is the best emulator around by far!

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Tritan



Joined: 04 Feb 2006
Posts: 136
Location: Illinois, USA

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yukiko wrote:
I'll answer the open source question.

It's quite simple.

Let's say POL is open source and let's assume four people named Fred, Bob, John and Art each make their own changes to the emulator and release their respective versions to the "world". Now imagine people posting questions here for help on each of these emulator versions. How would anyone be able to provide a central location for help on POL when you'd essentially have five versions (given my example above, the original and the four new ones) out there? Now imagine several dozen Freds, Arts, Johns and Bobs rewriting POL and releasing their respective versions. It would be madness to try to support all those modified POLs. If you want open source, write your own and release it or go with an open source emu. The POL developers have stated that they do not want an open source emulator and I support that essentially for the reason I stated above. Besides, why should the POL developers give away their hard work?


You know I never really thought about open source in that respect before but you are right. I have to say I agree with you on this. I am glad there is a dedicated group of dev's that work on the core and make the changes that are needed/requested and it is all kept in one nice and neat package.

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nevalon



Joined: 07 Mar 2006
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Location: Poland

PostPosted: Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

agreed(me) && understood(me) Smile

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Yukiko



Joined: 02 Feb 2006
Posts: 1094
Location: Southern Central USA

PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Tritan. I am glad that at least for once I was able to state my thoughts clearly and convincingly.

*grins*

I am not opposed to open source as a rule. It has its place but in the case of something like POL it does seem impracticle.

Anyway, have fun and keep on POLling!

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Kadmos



Joined: 18 Mar 2006
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I am not opposed to open source as a rule. It has its place but in the case of something like POL it does seem impracticle."

There are of course disadvantages of Pol being closed source:
1. Should the core developers decide, or be unable, to work on the core anymore we would still have an emu, but it would not grow or develop and would eventually die.
2. The advantage of closed source stated above can also be a disadvantage. Say for example the core progresses in a way which nobody (bar the core developers) wants, they are then unable to break away from the official core group and develop Pol. UO emu's are only around today for this very reason, people wanted something different from OSI UO.

I am not trying to advocate that Pol should be open source, this thread is not the place for that, I also know that the development has been great up to this point, but nobody knows the future.

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CWO



Joined: 04 Feb 2006
Posts: 684
Location: Chicago, IL USA

PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

big difference though... OSI isnt customizable in any way at all where POL has kept its very reason for being around... Being scriptable and customizable...

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