Hi, i have a problem with treasures loot.

i have something like this in nlootgroup.cfg

lootgroup 9 //level5map
{
Random 1d4+1 Circle8Scrolls
Stack 10000 GoldCoin
Random 2d10+99 Reagents
Random 10 NormalEquipment
Random 1d4 Treasures5
}

And always "Random 1d4" gives me 1 item.
Thats the problem, it´s like "1d4" doesn´t work.

And "Random 2d10+99" gives me 3 mandrakes, 8 spidersilk... doesn´t work to...



Any Answer?

PS: i apologies for my english

What script set are you using?

It would help to post you script that you think you are having problems with.

It sounds to me like the script is not calling the proper function to get the amount.

I looked up a few different sets of scripts and there are several ways of doing these files.

This is in the 095 distro for example:



Notice that a line of
Random 1d4 NormalEquipment
would actually have around a 0% to 3% chance of creating something from the group NormalEquipment which is a list of equipment in the same file.

So if you are using a lootgroup system similar to that one, all you have been changing has been the chance to spawn, not the number it spawns.

EDIT: wait, i still understanding XD

lootgroup 7 //level3map
{
Random 2 Circle3Scrolls // gives me 2 random items from circle3scrolls group

Random 1 BoneArmor 0 2 // gives me 1 item random, from bonearmor group, with color=0, and chance to spawn= 2/100.

Stack 3000 GoldCoin // 3000 gold coins

Random 1d10+5 Reagents // gives me a number of regs, from regs group. it can be 6 to 15.

Random 8 NormalEquipment// gives me 8 random item form normalequipment group.

Random 1d3 Treasures3 // and here's is my problem, i understand that this must be: 1 to 3 items sorted randomly, from treasures3 group(defined in same file).
But when i try if it works ingame, always gives me 1 item sorted randomly. Never 2, or 3.
}

mmm... i'm confused.

Edit 2: uufff.... well... now it´s works. it seems that only was bad luck.

i try 20 times, and always gives me 1 item, so i thought that something was wrong, but now, in 21 try, the loot was 3 items, so... it's WORKS!


Thanks for the help!

Welcome to the world of computers!

I think sometimes computers really do have a mind of their own.

I have the sneaking suspicion that the random number generator in POL favours the lowest number more than it should.

Eg randomInt(2) seems to give a lot more 0's than 1's.

Most of the time we run it once only to get a value, we don't run it 10 times to see how often a 0 occurs. Run it just once and you will get a 0 almost twice as often as a 1, or maybe that too is just my imagination.

It is important to remember too that there is no true random number generator algorithm. More properly they should be called "pseudo-random number generators".

Some are better than others and POLs is probably average to below average. It probably hasn't been looked at since Syzygy created POL. Maybe Shinigami could look into it and if need be add improving it to the POL 0.98 roadmap.

Yeap, i talk to a guy who was doing the same does i, and he said that maybe pol doesn´t work bery good when the random has low numbers.

he recommended me to use something like 25d40 and others convinations to see if it´s works or not.

=)

An update to the random number issue with smaller number ranges:
I found myself facing the same problem as you Equiii. I needed a random number in the range of 0 to 3. Using RandomInt I was getting mostly 0. I mean 20 times in a row I got 0 so I decided to give the RandomDiceRoll function a try and it is much better at generating smaller numbers it seems.