Better Webserver

[MontuZ]

[Marilla]

While we're at it, why not add a POP3, IMAP and SMTP engines, a DNS daemon, and a news server, too? It'd also be nice for POL to be able to expose SOAP web services, and maybe it can also implement a relational database, while we're at it. Oh, and don't forget that with all of this, it should probably implement LDAP, be able to serve as an SSL Certificate Authority, and finally, it should include IRC and Jabber services, as well.

[Matrix]

Head shot

[MontuZ]

So what you're saying Marilla, is that my "SUGGESTION" is completely irrational? lol.

[melanius]

I wouldn't call it irrational, but imagine the (already limited) development resources, being pointed to extending the webserver, which I think we all considered as not being the main point of POL's existance.

Wouldn't it be much better concentrating on ironing out any bugs and making the whole scripter's experience better?


I think it would.

[MontuZ]

I understand and totally agree to that. It's just a feature suggestion. I didn't say get it done first thing. It'll be really nice if in the future of POL if we'd be able to use stuff like this.

[MontuZ]

www.cfg is a grovy start.

[Marilla]

[Tritan]

Marilla I for once would agree with you on something.

I have never used the webserver for anything myself. Heck I have just starting looking into any interface of Apache or PHP into my scripts for some other things I want to do. I have heard about the webserver and refuse to use it.

[tekproxy]

Hate to res a semi-dead thread here, but why don't people use aux scripts and just interface their website with that?

It wouldn't be difficult to write a perl script that communicates to the POL server and set it on a cron job. The perl script could retrive any information that the aux script has access to (more or less everything on the server). The perl script could store this information in a database which is then accessed by your PHP scripts.

You could even create a web-based POL-authenticated administration portal. Just have username/password forms on your PHP script, send the forms to your perl script, which then sends the information to the aux script which returns if the login is valid or not. Then you could easily implement commands like broadcast, and it wouldn't be impossible to have highly graphical and interactive representation of the world using an big image of the world and some javascript, or even ajax.

The only time you should request a feature is it could generally help make the UO emulation better or add some functionality that is virtually impossible to do using scripts (that is to say, it's very ugly/incredibly slow if you use scripts).

The core is called the CORE because it does very little. When you take into consideration the amount of functionality you can hook and control yourself with scripts, the core does almost nothing but open up some ports, run scripts and lower-level stuff. This is the beauty of POL.

I'm not saying don't request features that would be cool ever, just request them once POL is at version 1.

[MontuZ]

I don't know anything about php, perl, js, etc. I only know eScript.. And I wasn't asking for these features to be done tomorrow, maybe in the future of pol, like you said, version 1. just as long as it's considered, it'd be nice.

[Exar Kun]

I remember back about 6 years ago when I GMed for DW on Myth....He had a webpage the GMs could go to in order to check things like system load, reset "something" that seemed to help performance when the load was high, and to check on the number of mobiles. It would even give you the X, Y of large groups of mobiles.

This was a huge help since the admin was often unavailable for large chunks of time. Like one night, a town guard went to hacking on a slime that just kept splitting. There were over 2000 slimes in the area of a half-screen.

Another time, a town guard (probably the same troublemaker) trying in vain to get into a graveyard and slay a lich. The lich, wasn't messing around....he had called a huge army of undead, all crammed into a tiny graveyard and jostling next to each other.

I have no idea how he created that page, but it really came in useful for us. I wish I knew enough to re-create something like that for my folks.

Oh, and I realize this might not even be the appropriate place for this post, but I like the idea of a little more web support.

[tekproxy]

I was just trying to suggest using aux scripts, not trying to sound mean. The "don't request silly features" wasn't intended for you.

[MontuZ]

I'll tell you what though, if I knew php and stuff I'd use aux scripts. But I don't, .

[MuadDib]

This will help you learn Unreal

http://forums.polserver.com/viewtopic.php?t=86